Nov. 29, 2006
The following is a recommendation from the Cattle Dog Committee in regards to their double lift.."The out work will consist of two gathers, with the dog being sent in the opposite direction for the second outrun from the direction of the first outrun. The lookback will be given when the cattle have crossed the plain of the fetch panel, having missed or made the panel.The line of a cross over will be a straight line between the two groups of cattle at the time the lookback is given. There will be a well defined arch marked at 50 yard radius from the position the handler is to stand when sending his dog on the outrun. If the dog crosses this line after the cattle have crossed the plane of the fetch panel, the dog will lose all thirty of the second outrun points. With this exception, the second outrun will be judged the same as the first outrun. The handler will be allowed two commands on his second outrun, one for a lookback, another for direction. Any additional commands will result in the loss of points the same as the first outrun.
Wayne Butler motioned to accept the Cattle Dog recommendation for the double lift, seconded by Pete Carmichael.
Herbert asked for discussions. After several days of discussions Herbert called for the vote. Motion Passed
Wayne Butler, Yes Chester Williams, Yes Sandra Milberg, Yes
Lyle Lad, Yes Bruce Smart, Yes Dean Holcomb, Yes
Beverly Lambert, yes Pete Carmichael, Yes Michele Howard, Yes
Gene Sheninger, Yes Kate Broadbent, Yes Dal Kratzer, No
Mike Neary, No Susan Carvalho, Yes
Francis Raley, 11/29/06
On Oct. 14, 2006 Herbert Holmes posted to the HA
Directors Forum; I have the follow rule change request from the Cattle
dog Committee . They were unanimous in their support for this change.
The judge will judge the outrun only. He will judge based on the
2. A dog that has a
redirect will lose one point per redirect, up to 5 points.
Wayne Butler motioned to accept rule change request from the Cattledog Committee, seconded by Pete Carmichael.
After a discussion on the forum Herbert called for the votes. Motioned passed.
Mandy Harley No Pete Carmichael - Yes Chester Williams Yes
Dale Kuhrt No Dean Holcomb Yes Bruce Smart - Yes
Gary Westbrook - No Barb Ross Yes Beverly Lambert Yes
Mike Neary - No Wayne Butler Yes Lyle Lad Yes
Emil Luedecke - No Gene Sheninger Yes Sandra Milberg Yes
Michele Howard - No Susan Carvalho Yes Kate Broadbent - Yes
Stormy Winters Yes
Francis Raley, Oct. 27, 2006
Oct. 13, 2006
President Herbert Holmes posted to the USBCHA Directors Forum the following message.
At the finals, an official complaint was files by a member against Alasdair MacRae.
The complaint was that he violated the committee rule about staying off the Nursery field in the mornings before the trial started. That he was abusing to a trial official (nursery course director) and that he violated other rules in talking to the judges.
I appointed a committee, Don Helsley, Karen Child, Jim Swift, Michelle Howard, and myself to deal with this at the finals.
The committee interviewed 2 witnesses, the course director and Mr. MacRae. The committee found that Mr. MacRae was in violation of being on the field when he was not supposed to be, and that he was disrespectful to a trial official. The committee spoke with Mr. MacRae, told him in that being disrespectful to an official he was being offensive to the rest of the members and trial organizers, and that we were personally offended by his actions. No other action was taken nor is any further action recommended by the committee.
Dal Kratzer motioned to accept the committee action. seconded Gary Westbrook. Motion Passed
Beverly Lambert yes Barb Ross yes Gary Westbrook - yes
Bruce Smart yes Gene Sheninger yes Dal Kratzer - yes
Wayne Butler yes Emil Luedecke - yes
Michele Howard yes Dale Kuhrt - yes
Kate Broadbent yes Leo Woodbury - yes
Francis Raley, Oct. 13, 2006
July 19, 2006
President, Herbert Holmes, opened the floor for discussion on payback premiums for 2006 National Finals. Wayne Butler motioned to pay out the same money at the finals as last (2005) year, $34,459.98, seconded by Michele Howard. Motion passed.
Open Premiums $ 26,059.98 Nursery Premiums $8,400.00
Sandra Milberg, yes Mike Neary, yes Bruce Smart, yes
Gary Westbrook, yes Dale Kuhrt, yes Chester Williams, yes
Kate Broadbent, yes Mandy Harley, yes Barb Ross, yes
Michele Howard, yes Wayne Butler, yes Leo Woodbury, yes
Emil Luedecke, yes
July 10, 2006
On June 25, 2006 Herbert posted to the forum: We do not have a plan on place for losing a judge in mid trial. It is going to happen some day, illness, disgruntled handler, heart attack etc. What do we do then? Continue with one? Put in another?
After a discussion Emil motioned at any time during the running of a class at the National Finals, one of the judges becomes disabled in any way that we drop all of this judges previous scores and continue with the other judge to the end of that go-round, seconded by Wayne Butler. Motion passed
Sandra Milberg yes Mandy Harley yes Leo Woodbury - yes
Wayne Butler yes Emil Luedecke - yes
Bruce Smart yes Mike Neary - yes
Michele Howard yes Gary Westbrook yes
Francis Raley, July 10, 2006
June 20, 2006
The Board supported the interpretation of the Open qualifying By-Law to not let anyone accumulate points until dues are paid.
June 6, 2006
HA received a bid for the 2007 National Finals from Gettysburg, Pa, Host Committee. All HA Directors received a copy of the bid. Trial to be held September 19 26, 2007. President, Herbert Holmes, open the HA Directors Forum for discussion on the bid.
After several weeks of discussion Dean Holcomb moved to accept the Gettysburg, Pa. Host Committee proposal for the National Finals 2007, with the understanding that the trial host committee will profit share back to the Sheep Fund from their net profits, seconded by Bruce Smart.
Bruce Smart told the Directors, that the Finals 2007 committee agrees that USBCHA shall receive a refund of sheep expense in excess of $10,000 once other commitments have been met.if there is a surplus the Sheep Fund will be reimbursed for the amount spent over $10,000. The remainder would be distributed as Barbara Levinson indicated with 50% to Mabcr and the rest to be used at the discretion of the Finals 2007 Committee.
Herbert Holmes ask the Directors to cast their votes. Motion passed
Beverly Lambert yes Kate Broadbent - yes Gary Westbrook - yes
Sandra Milberg yes Michele Howard - yes Dale Kuhrt yes
Mandy Harley yes Wayne Butler yes Dean Holcomb yes
Bruce Smart yes Leo Woodbury - no
April 18, 2006
After a discussion on the forum on using three or four judges for the National Sheepdog Finals Michele motioned to use four judges, seconded by Sandra Milberg. Motion failed. Recorded votes
Mike Neary No Beverly Lambert - Yes
Barb Ross No Michele Howard - Yes
Wayne Butler No Mandy Harley - Yes
Dale Kuhrt No Sandra Milberg - Yes
Dean Holcomb No Stormy Winters - Yes
Bruce Smart No
Leo Woodbury - No
Three judges for the Double Lift Finals will be Dal Kratzer, Ray Edwards and Warren Mick.
April 4, 2006
National Judges were nominated and voted by USBCHA & ABCA Directors. Warren Mick, Dal Kratzer, Ray Edward/England and Aled Owen/Wales were elected to judge the 2007 National Finals. Warren Mick and Ray Edwards will judge the first go of Open. Dal Kratzer and Aled Owen will judge the Nursery rounds and the Semi Finals of the Open. Dal Kratzer, Ray Edwards, and Warren Mick will judge the Open Finals.
March 18, 2006
HA received three 2007 Cattledog Finals bids. Each Director received copies of each bid. Herbert opened the floor for discussion. All the bid were excellent bids.
Goshen County Chamber of Commerce, Torrington Wyoming
Big Lake Texas Chamber of Commerce
Marilyn Hahn & Kathy Rose (Herdbound Productions, LLC) Eagle Point, Oregon
Wayne Butler motioned to vote on the three 2007 Cattledog Finals proposals, seconded by Emil Luedecke.
The 2007 Cattledog Finals will be held in Torrington, Wy.
Leo Woodbury Wy Sandra Milberg Wy Barb Ross - Wy
Michele Howard Wy Gary Westbrook Wy Dean Holcomb - Wy
Mandy Harley Wy Wayne Butler Wy Beverly Lambert Wy
Dake Kuhrt Wy Emil Luedecke Wy
March 12, 2007
After a discussion by HA Directors on the USBCHA forum Gary Westbrook moved to withdraw his motion to not sanction arena Sheep and Cattle trials, Dale Kuhrt withdrew his second. The motion has been withdrawn.
March 10, 2006 Forum motion.
Gary Westbrook made the following motion "I move that we not sanction any timed arena trial:sheep or cattle."
Dale Kurt seconded the motion. After discusion, Gary Westbrook moved to withdraw his motion. There were no objections, the motion was withdrawn.
HA Forum Minutes,
In the event a judge has cause to DQ a competitor, he or she must do so by showing a flag to the course director. This is to be done with no discussion with the other judge(s). we are looking for independent actions from the judges. If the Cd sees a flag from each judge, he will confirm, then ask the competitor to retire from the field. If the CD does not see a flag from each judge, he will inform the DQing judge, who will continue scoring the remainder of the run. (finish here with one of the two options below)
The DQing judge will take all the points from the phase of work where
the offense occured.
Option C: The DQing judge will take points from the score that reflects his opinion of the severity of the offense, up to a maximum of all points allotted to that segment of work
An explanation of the above optoins would be:
If the judge flags(DQs) he
must take all of that phase
There are 16 votes
In the event a judge has cause to DQ a competitor, he or she must do so by showing a flag to course director. This is to be done with no discussion with the other judge(s). We are looking for independent action from the judges. If the course director sees a flag from each judge, he will confirm, then ask the
competitor to retire from the field. If the course director does not see a flag from each judge, he will inform the DQing judge who will continue to score the run. The DQing judge will take points from the run that reflects his opinion of the severity of the offense.( If the judge flags, he can take as few or as many points as he wants irregardless of the phase of work.)
This was removed from the minutes on web and replaced with the above rule change. A competitor so disqualified shall not be entitled to a prize of any kind not withstanding that, before the disqualification he has earned points entitling him to a prize. If the dog is not disqualified it shall be penalized by the loss of points as each judge in his discretion thinks fit, but not exceeding the number of points allowed for the phase of work in which the gripping or biting occurs.
Francis, Feb. 9, 2006
A vote was taken on the USBCHA forum to raise the judging fee for the National Sheepdog. Mike Neary motioned to raise the judging fee to $1,750.00, seconded by Sandra Milberg. Motioned passed. There was not any no votes recorded.
Dale Kuhrt, yes Leo Woodbury, yes Gary Westbrook, yes Bruce Smart, yes Sandra Milberg, yes Michele Howard, yes Emil Luedecke, yes Mike Neary, yes
Francis Raley, Jan. 27, 2006